Talk:Fraud and Scam Center/@comment-98.150.129.129-20121216224001

I've been following this story from the beginning, and the inital Flicker pic set shows this girl (Natalie, aka Hokagesama... verified by in game cheer screen captures) begging to borrow cards on FB from Alvaro (aztec23); while this does not provide definitive proof that she did scam, it does show in the comments that she did in fact receive card(s) from him.

Now Houdini is providing other screen shots to show a convo between him and her.

If in fact these guys ARE trying to scam Hokage; these guys are expending an awful amount of energy, time, and resources trying to get it from her... by comming to community boards, taking screen caps of in-game convos, as well as convos on FB. Even going as far as taking pics of their phone with a digi cam, complete with time and date. Can time/date be altered on the phone? Sure, but you can't alter the fact that Santa is in the background... well you CAN, but with my 17+ years experience of using Photoshop for photo enhancment/manipulation for the entertainment and advertising industries, I can tell you that IF these guys used Photoshop, they expended ALOT of hours doing so.

Having said that... would it be worth this amount of effort to get URs from someone? Cheer convos usually go back about 50 posts, I would like to see Hokage post any recent Cheers from Houdini... unless she cheers so much, that it has been cleared off screen already.

It just seems too fishy to me, this girl was begging aztec HARD for his most powerful cards (link to those screen caps towards bottom of page); she got at least one (if not more) card from him, promising to return them... now Houdini is claiming that she has a few from him? Now she is saying post this, post that, your posts aren't proof enough...

They may not be enough, there is a lot; for them to go through this much trouble + the inital screen caps from Aztec showing you begging (and receiving) some cards leads me to believe that you in fact have their cards. The evidence they provided maybe circumstantial, but you've provided ZERO in rebuttal, Hokage. If this was small claims court, and they were in fact scamming you, they would win for their efforts; because a judge (Whiteboi, lol) has to make a decision based on evidence provided, you have provided NOTHING in your defense. Judgement for the plantiff *slams gavel*