Talk:Regret-Stricken Elsa/@comment-11538406-20130729191146/@comment-9240827-20130730215854

Whoa! I wasn't saying fire has the some of the best luck overall! I was saying they have some of the best luck with pwr8-10 URs. That's all. So far the only good pwr8-10 URs for Forest are Hristina, Inhert, and Bonnie, and only Bonnie is an attack card out of those three. While water has Tink, Athos, Cheryl, and Nike (they're all attack except for Nike), and fire has Abraham, Queen Clover, Osiris, Gynoid, Elsa, Pyromancer, and Hilde. Mostly def cards, yes, but there is still a balanced card and two attack cards. Water definitely has the best, fire being a close second, and forest third. Allow me to clarify that I'm ONLY talking about PWR8-10 CARDS (well Elsa is pwr12 but you get my point) and any other cards don't count.

Yes it's true that Forest has the best frontline options, with Oathbound, Aramis, Sakuya, Vamp Lord, and Rabbit as your forest fl, you would be powerful.

I'm just talking about backline options. Fire also has Vivian for the backline.

Water is definitely rising to the top. They just need more great boost to water atk cards.

Fire is definitely the worst for frontlines, as you have pointed out.

I'm sorry for not clarifying before.

Also, fire has the most 14k atk cards (2), while water and forest only have one each, and water has a 14k def card. Barbara is the best pwr17, but yes. I see your point there.

And as for Umbral, that only applies to iOS. Umbral isn't on Android, so really, the only backline rares with 700+ efficiency that we have is Rockface, Timber Dragon, and Adelaide, and Timber and Adelaide really aren't that great.

Fire has Deus, Fernanda, and Daemon. Deus > Adelaide and Timber.

If I come off as rude, I am sorry. I just get a little heated up when debating, lol.

So yes, Forest needs a better pwr10 atk ultra, and so does fire. I hope we get 805 efficiency fire and forest ultras soon.