Talk:(Raze) Wagner, the Legendary Dragon/@comment-142.16.22.18-20130304010041/@comment-142.167.241.176-20130327001736

oath is 25%, wolf is 20%, are they really same? The high price for oath not only because of his rarity but also his 25% skill.

Umbral or caroler is better than theri, its nothing to do with pwr needed, dont even need stats. Very simple calculation, Large boost to forest 23%, theri 20%, caroler 9650, theri 13230, the difference is 3580, 3580/0.03 almost 120K. If you atk more than 120K, caroler>theri. Pretty clear