Talk:Ethereal Bahamut/@comment-50.187.245.167-20170221020553

The explainations of bahamuts names seems to be mixing two different myths or references.

one being from the interpritations of  Allah's words by Ibn 'Abbas which is post-Islamic.

and the other from wikipidia being from arabian mythology which is Pre-Islamic.

either way it seem the origin of the name seem to be debatable my personal opinion sides with the pre-Islamic one but I'm not truely sure.

this chart of the seven heavens below shows the layer of Cosmology based on pre-Islamic arabian mythology Pre-Islamic
 * Seven Heavens
 * The First Earth (Inhabitants: man, genie and animals)
 * The Second Earth (Inhabitants: wind of suffocation)
 * The Third Earth (Inhabitants: stones of hell)
 * The Fourth Earth (Inhabitants: sulphur of hell)
 * The Fifth Earth (Inhabitants: serpents of hell)
 * The Sixth Earth (Inhabitants: scorpions of hell)
 * The Seventh Earth (Inhabitants: devil and his angels)
 * An Angel
 * A rock of Ruby
 * Kuyutha
 * Bahamut
 * Fathomless sea
 * Realm of Air
 * Realm of Fire
 * Falak, the omnipotent serpent

Edward William Lane cites two cosmological accounts from Ibn al-Wardi (d. 1348) that feature Bahamut. One account describes Bahamut as a fish floating in water, supported by darkness. On the fish is a bull called Kujata,[2] [5] [6] on the bull, a ruby mountain; on the mountain, an angel; the angel holds and supports the seven earths.[2] In another account, Bahamut supports a bed of sand, on which stands a bull, on whose back rests a rock which holds the waters in which the earth is located. Beneath the fish are layers of suffocating wind, a veil of darkness, and mist.[2] Other sources describe Behemoth as a layer in similar conceptions of Arabic cosmography.

Arabian society in the middle ages: studies from the Thousand and one nights

Post-Islamic

Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs: "And from his narration on the authority of Ibn 'Abbas that he said regarding the interpretation of Allah's saying (Nun): '(Nun) He says: Allah swears by the Nun, which is the whale that carries the earths on its back while in Water, and beneath which is the Bull and under the Bull is the Rock and under the Rock is the Dust and none knows what is under the Dust save Allah. The name of the whale is Liwash, and it is said its name is Lutiaya'; the name of the bull is Bahamut, and some say its name is Talhut or Liyona. The whale is in a sea called 'Adwad, and it is like a small bull in a huge sea. The sea is in a hollowed rock whereby there is 4,000 cracks, and from each crack water springs out to the earth. It is also said that Nun is one of the names of the Lord; it stands for the letter Nun in Allah's name al-Rahman (the Beneficent); and it is also said that a Nun is an inkwell. (By the pen) Allah swore by the pen. This pen is made of light and its height is equal to the distance between Heaven and earth. It is with this pen that the Wise Remembrance, i.e. the Guarded Tablet, was written. It is also said that the pen is one of the angels by whom Allah has sworn, (and that which they write (therewith)) and Allah also swore by what the angels write down of the works of the children of Adam"

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